Also 7/11's don't even have a pharmacy m8r.

There's a distinct difference between true sociopaths, anti-social behavior, narcissists, and general a-holes.

Most people who are a-holes in a game or anywhere else do it because they feel okay with doing it, yet still perceive themselves as decent people because they have people they care about and people that care about them. Narcissists will call themselves sociopaths but really aren't, as both self labeling and the desire not to care about consequences or what anyone thinks screams "love me!". Sociopaths see noone and nothing of value except to use to their own ends. Family, friends, etc. They can be charming and appear super intelligent because they lack emotional baggage like conscience for conning or self doubt for executing plans or figuring out how to work and manipulate people. Their goal is one thing "how can I squeeze every benefit out of everything around me and avoid consequences".

Many web searches for sociopath+trolling can reveal some understanding of what goes on via internet or multiplayer games. Any game which allows a sociopath to revel in their own sadistic and destructive impulses is going to draw them like a moth to a flame. It has to, they're following their mechanisms just like people who actually have a conscience follow theirs.

People you out rank? What world are you living in? I would say we should just agree to disagree but I get the feeling that's never going to happen.

You might be surprised how many people with Ph.D.'s have no idea what they're talking about. Look up the term diploma mill.

This is because in order for something to trigger an emotion in you (whether it's joy, happiness, anger, frustration, etc.) , it requires emotional investment.

However, it looks as though people are confused and want to equate emotional investment with emotional attachment.

It's possible to be emotionally invested without becoming emotionally attached.

This response concerns me. It seems you believe your pixelized character has a brain of it's own, and you have no control over it's actions. You just sign it on, and he takes off doing it's own thing. The fact is this digital character is a direct reflection of who you are. The digital character in every way is you. He reflects your morals, your thought patterns and processes, right down to your very soul. It is incapable of thinking for itself, or taking actions without YOU telling it what to do.

This is an issue that human society is going to have to deal with in the near future. Are machines, avatars, robots, or any mechanical or virtual thing responsible for their own actions? Or is the human in control of that machine responsible. (If I command my robot to murder my ex-wife...am I responsible if it does kill her?)

i fear benny you may become very emotional in the thread

And if you are role playing why choose to play a criminal who shoots and steals from other people...this also concerns me.

(Edit: @ccp: Disclaimer: my idea's and thoughts are my intulectual properties, any usage is forbidden without my concent. (Ignorance is bad, m'kay :mister garrison:)

It's less about e-bushido and more about the fact that people who play a game with the sole purpose of wanting to ruin someone else's game experience is doing it for very personal reasons. Most of these people are indeed probably either sociopaths or have been abused and take it out on other people

I bet you anything that if a corp of gankers sat outside newbie systems on gates and ganked THOSE people, even though they're carefully avoiding the rules, CCP would ban them, because a 15 day trial that cant get invested enough with "foot in the door" to buy at least one month of Eve Online means worse sales for CCP.

It's totally within the current rules to camp and gank newbies outside of their newbie systems, yet I doubt anyone doing a concerted effort of that would last long.

I mean, I really would like to point out this system flaw. How is it griefing if you do it to newbies in the starter systems, yet not griefing if you do it somewhere else? There's no logic to that.

Eve comes at the PRICE of spending lots of time in order to have that one moment of "eve super mario brothers". If that wasn't true, the people in this thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=380238 would never have become so pissy over my claims and suggestions. These same pissy people are the ones also claiming no emotional investment here in this thread. That's epic comedy to me.

And yet, people trick "rookies" all the time with can bait and all other sorts of things outside those same systems that are "off limits".

You're attempting to call other people vile to try to ad hom invalidate their arguments. That's not a valid way of discussing the issue.

I work with people who've been abused. I know the signs. I'm sorry if that happened to you which is why this upset you. But our past doesn't excuse our behavior.

And what a world it is when people feigning indignation to damage other people's reputation can actually work.

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